lol - we recently went to look at small SUVs at the Laurel Carmax and had almost the opposite experience. We went to carmax first so we could compare the Toyotas and the Hondas together. Even though we both have happy corrolas the Honda Pilot was a better ride - at least for the 3-4 year old models. They had us pull over halfway through the test drive to switch drivers (though we did have to request it). And afterwards they took us back, gave us the trade in quote for V's car and, maybe it was because carmax is no haggle, but we said we didn't think we'd be getting anything today and the guy (who had spent about 2+ hours with us) said OK - have a nice day and walked out. The end. We both sat there stunned - I've never been able to leave a dealership that quickly. He didn't even ask what we liked/didn't like or try to make other recommendations or anything. It was crazy.